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"GLOBAL LEARNING & SHAPING THE FUTURE" New Learning for New Societies
Cafe Comments
Mr. Schneider  1.  hallo franz
Mr. Nahrada  2.  ahhh breeaak
Mr. Nahrada  3.  hallo
Mr. Schneider  4.  aha, everybody is coming together, very fine.
Mr. benking  5.  hi
Ms. Lohmann  6.  anyone for some fries?
Mr. Nahrada  7.  i just had dinner ;-)
Ms. Hauben  8.  how did the different sessions go?
Mr. Schneider  9.  an explanation for the few sessions posted: as there were about 19 participants present at the opening, a specific number of sessions could be posted. just as info , as we all should also evaluate the efficincy of this new conferecning format
Ms. Lohmann  10.  i joined late, but - hmmm, it's all a bit vague...
Mr. Schneider  11.  to 8: you will find resluts on the sessions in a few minutes when the documentations are ready!
Mr. Nahrada  12.  still different from chats. the synchronicity constraint....
Mr. Henkel  13.  Mr. McBride, I do have experience with computers and foreign language teaching. No good experiences with computer assisted translation, though. I'm more into communication, using the foreign language. This goes really well. If you wish to know more, contact me with specific question at fremdsprachen@robert-bosch-gesamtschule.de
Mr. Schneider  14.  weare discussing very broad topics, with many participants... is that a problem with the synchronicity?
Ms. Herrlich  15.  I really enjoy this new form of coming together and learn a lot of where projects are
Mr. MacBryde  16.  Mr. Henkel, THANKS!
Ms. Zaher  17.  i really value the different perspectives
Ms. lenser  18.  Farah ist leider nicht da ! - ich suche Sie ! best Heiner
Ms. Zaher  19.  discussion culture with many people from different cultures was extremely helpful and eye-opening
Mr. Schneider  20.  NOTE: if you would like to invite a SPECIFIC PERSON for a separee talk, you can do so by pushing the button down below - choose a person from the scroll field and klick on the two-person option :-)
Mr. Henkel  21.  I'm taking a break. Be back in 11 mins.
Ms. Morton-Marr  22.  Hi everyone, This is a facinating process, I found the sessions a difficult to keep on topic. I had to keep going back to where I left off. It is very interesting being a butterfly and I think that young people would like the medium.
Mr. Schneider  23.  THATS WHAT I THINK !
Mr. Schneider  24.  I really appreciate this a s a work tool: the documentation will allow to trace the personal fields and horizons and perspectives of the participants. this provides a lot of potentials for further communication towards cooperation after the conference.
Mr. Schneider  25.  Mr. Auditor, whats happening in Germany' GLOBAL EDUCATION WEEK ?
Mr. Schneider  26.  farah just logged in !
Mr. Nahrada  27.  ad 14. seems the synchronicity helps to facilitate more topics and more people. What I miss are several clipboards so you can store thoughts until a topic gets hot...
Mr. Nahrada  28.  (ok but thats probably something-.....
Mr. Nahrada  29.  that you can do for yourself)
Mr. Auditor  30.  Hallo. There are very different activities by NGO's and schools in all the fields of Global Education. These one who are interested in can have a look at www.globaleducationweek.de
Mr. Schneider  31.  Mabel, where are you ? try in SESSION 11 !
Mr. benking  32.  I was a convener and could not visit the other sessions. But the traffic in my session was low and I was therefore a bit stuck.
Mr. Schneider  33.  to heiner: where were you ?
Mr. Schneider  34.  27: clipboard sounds really good. MAYBE MORE SESSIONS could have helped ? because of the broad variety of topics that many of us represent
Mr. hauben  35.  Sorry I am not here just now.
Mr. benking  36.  Sorry I am not here Mr hauben is typing for me.
Mr. benking  37.  I am jay and I am here.
Mr. hauben  38.  jay is here heiner is back
Ms. Lohmann  39.  hello jay
Mr. hauben  40.  THIS IS ME - HEINER ! Jay was in my socks ... sorry
Mr. Schneider  41.  I hope we find a way for MABEL of www.peacechild.org to present some experience from her field: peacechild coordinates groups of children and youth that RAISE MONEY for realizing sustainability projects worldwide. SHE KNOWS how to bridge the school fence, and become active with the kids.
Mr. hauben  42.  soroy ! wrong window... greetings from Heiner - we are rolling with laughter !!
Mr. benking  43.  FINALLY I am home - thanks for your patience..
Mr. Schneider  44.  It looks like no. 2 will SPECIFY the themes of sessions 7 and 10. a major issue
Ms. Toribio  45.  hello everybody!!! I'm sorry for 'arriving' an hour late. I have checked the sessions topics and I think that I can contribute in some of them
Ms. Lohmann  46.  if you contribute to previous comments please refer to the number you're commenting on...
Mr. hauben  47.  hi
Mr. Nahrada  48.  hi
Mr. Nahrada  49.  like this software, alows quick moves
Mr. Nahrada  50.  definitely a masterpiece, I have to admit.....
Mr. Nahrada  51.  you do not loose contents
Mr. Lohmann  52.  Hello, this weekend was a meeting at the head quarters of club of rome about www.globalmarshallplan.org Have a look, itīs very interesting concept to raise money for global change.
Mr. Nahrada  53.  OK
Mr. Nahrada  54.  what were the outcomes?
Mr. Lohmann  55.  Mr. Nahrada, Heiner already told me something about you īcouple of years ago, but I forgot. What are you currently working at?
Mr. Nahrada  56.  Well I have on one hand to survive, that means running the hotel of my father who died three years ago...
Mr. Nahrada  57.  On the other hand, I am still working on the concept of "Global Villages"
Mr. Nahrada  58.  which means, thinking about new ways of living and working
Mr. Nahrada  59.  bringing together cultural creatives and rural development
Mr. Lohmann  60.  The outcome is a initiative to work with WTO, World bank, UNO and the EU together in the frame work of what they all already have proposed and never done towards sustainability.
Mr. Nahrada  61.  aha.....one exciting project that I am involved is iVille
Mr. Nahrada  62.  http://www.idorf.de/wDeutsch/
Mr. Lohmann  63.  Around 980 billions are needed till 2015 and could be raised via common financial instruments that are globally used by these.
Mr. Nahrada  64.  But there needs to be a clear vision of sustainable society, one which raises enthusiasm
Mr. Nahrada  65.  that is what kept me busy: how do we create compelling dreams that really inspire people
Mr. Lohmann  66.  That was exaclty my point. How do we inspire the masses and media?
Mr. Nahrada  67.  and one of the answers is the Global Vilages concept
Ms. Lohmann  68.  hello everyone
Mr. Lohmann  69.  Wow - two minds - one idea...
Ms. Kolbe  70.  hello :)
Mr. Nahrada  71.  :-)
Mr. benking  72.  hey you guys - you stayed int eh cafee all the time!?
Ms. Zaher  73.  hello all
Mr. Nahrada  74.  not all the time, just now and then
Ms. Lohmann  75.  the brits only just got in in time for tea
Mr. Nahrada  76.  this is a fantastic software. thanks to Gabriele Ender!
Ms. Lohmann  77.  yeah yeah always where the food is, eh?
Mr. Lohmann  78.  Another one a itinerant exhibition combined with a global culture plattform. And funky enough to get som economic partners involved.
Mr. hauben  79.  Does the internet become a step toward a globle village when effort is made to insure that it keeps spreading to more and more people?
Mr. Lohmann  80.  Think, Iīve got to check the sessions... See you :-)
Mr. Nahrada  81.  you can move in, and move out...Mr.Lohmann, yes. I dreamed of a permanent exhibition village, peace village that combines the best ideas of our time
Mr. Nahrada  82.  a touristical site almost
Ms. Lohmann  83.  what did everyone think of their sessions?
Mr. hauben  84.  Can everyone who wants a better world contribute to the global village that you envision?
Mr. Nahrada  85.  79,84: I think Global Village translates into Global Villages
Mr. Nahrada  86.  Places where life has substantially changed due to Global communication
Mr. Nahrada  87.  Nevertheless physical places
Mr. hauben  88.  but there need be and should be and can be only one Internet. Yes? No?
Mr. Nahrada  89.  that is evident, ironically, for everyone
Mr. Oberle  90.  To topic one, I am sorry for the short protocol, but I was disconnected by the server just before finishing, so I had only 2 minutes time left to do it again.
Mr. hauben  91.  Is the global villages idea less than communication among all people? Is that only a dream?
Mr. Nahrada  92.  I found out the dream is coming true. slowly. there are several elements
Mr. hauben  93.  which elements do you see
Mr. Nahrada  94.  the attempt to re-claim the internet by communities. bloggers. programmers.
Mr. Lohmann  95.  88. Never only virtual worlds. You always need something real to refer. Even if it remains just a memory there must be a real anchor to a positive community to become real.
Mr. Straskraba  96.  hi everyone!
Mr. Nahrada  97.  second the attempt to build places of global learning in physical communities
Mr. hauben  98.  94 yes
Mr. Straskraba  99.  may i ask you who in here has icq? maybe some of us wanna continue talking after the session
Mr. Nahrada  100.  third the emergence of a culture of cooperation between networks. this is just happening now
Mr. hauben  101.  Those who fight to defend the open public free Internet are a global community I like to think of as citizens of the net. As rondfīda says netizens
Mr. hauben  102.  100 yes
Mr. Straskraba  103.  mr. nahrada: 100 is the magic number! :) .. yes!
Mr. Straskraba  104.  mr. hauben: i also agree
Mr. Nahrada  105.  but you cannot only be a netizen. that is only half the truth. with the other half, you are the ambassador of the net in your village and the ambassador of your village in the net.
Mr. hauben  106.  so the netizens and the net lives despite corporate globalization.
Mr. Straskraba  107.  mr. nahrada: *agree 100%*
Mr. Nahrada  108.  they re-claim it now. thats the irony!
Mr. Straskraba  109.  106: despite and because of it .. the net is about co-operation and co-existence
Mr. hauben  110.  The cooperation and communication among different networks was the defining principle upon which the development of the internet protocols TCP/IP was based.
Mr. hauben  111.  There would have been no internet without the International collaborative efdforts from 1973 to 1983 to develop test and improve the reaching of the goal of open unrestricted communication among networks no matteer how different were their technology political purpose administration etc.
Mr. Straskraba  112.  110: right, and no matter whether these networks were for NASDAQ, Zapatista, B92 or neo-nazis ... itīs just the net. and society decides (has to decide i think) which way to use the net.
Mr. Nahrada  113.  and the commercial approach, new economy etc. they failed
Mr. Straskraba  114.  i think we were have a positive vision - but we also have to consider other views (i.e. security-hyped administrations)
Ms. Kreuter  115.  greetings to Positive Nett-Works. I just arrived.
Mr. benking  116.  hi Gertrud - good to ahve you around - finally...
Mr. Straskraba  117.  welcom ms. kreuter
Mr. Straskraba  118.  may i ask again: who in here is using icq?
Mr. Schneider  119.  laurent straskraba, I have ICQ, in general, but i will have to establidsh it properly, LETS ALL ESTABLISH ICQ; LAURENT CAN TEACH US THROUGH EMAIL HOW TO DO IT... can you ?
Ms. Herrlich  120.  hello, hr Hauben, how are you doing? My head looks for practical steps
Mr. Nahrada  121.  hello gabi
Ms. Ender  122.  Hallo Franz, wie gehts?
Ms. Hauben  123.  we use irc
Ms. Morton-Marr  124.  This is a great forum, thanks to the organizers.
Ms. Lohmann  125.  hi mr. schneider- just wanted to say it is a pleasure chatting with you
Ms. de Silvio  126.  to organizer... How this software are using? the openspace-online sell to you or they sponsored you?
Ms. Lohmann  127.  sorry to be old-fashioned- what is ICQ?
Ms. Toribio  128.  it's a system similar to MSN
Ms. Lohmann  129.  a chat facility?
Ms. Toribio  130.  to chat
Ms. Lohmann  131.  ok
Mr. Schneider  132.  LAURENT GIVE US AN IDEA HOW TO DO IT, configure it with the internet browser, I believe it is very simple !
Ms. de Silvio  133.  anybody here are from south america too?
Mr. Schneider  134.  to 132, ICQ i mean
Mr. Lohmann  135.  Hopefully no problems with firewall and proxies???
Mr. Schneider  136.  who knows...
Ms. Toribio  137.  yes Uira, tudo bem? Eu sou Mabel
Mr. Auditor  138.  To 133. No, but I lived a few years in Brasil
Mr. Schneider  139.  try to get mr straskraba to tell us, franz , do you know (nahrada)
Ms. Toribio  140.  de Peru
Ms. de Silvio  141.  yep... habla espanol, si?
Ms. Toribio  142.  claro
Mr. Lohmann  143.  Yo vivio en el Peru!
Mr. Lohmann  144.  Hace mucho tiempo...
Ms. Toribio  145.  pero todavia vuelvo el otro aņo, este aņo estoy en Peace Child
Ms. Toribio  146.  en UK
Ms. Lohmann  147.  and i missed out cause i wasn't born yet- bummer
Mr. Lohmann  148.  Love you anyway, sweet.
Ms. Lohmann  149.  and you
Ms. de Silvio  150.  toribio... what the peace child do?
Ms. Toribio  151.  because of the time, please, I ask you ALL to check www.peacechild.org
Ms. de Silvio  152.  yes but, events, projects, what?
Mr. Schneider  153.  children collect money for projects in other countires
Ms. Toribio  154.  we work with young people and children in Education for Sust. Development, and have different programmes
Ms. Hauben  155.  And I suggest you look at http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120
Ms. Toribio  156.  to 153- that's one of the things
Mr. benking  157.  hi - this is Heiner after finsihing his report - we are still searching for FARAH
Ms. Morton-Marr  158.  Hallo to Peacechild International. I love your concept born in New Guinea, where the tribes exchanged a child who would grow up in the other tribe. This child was to be the conflict negiotiator with the other tribe.
Ms. Toribio  159.  but also we are training young people to introduce their peers in Sust. development issues
Ms. Hauben  160.  The url I gave is for an online version of "Netizens: On the history and impact of Usenet and the Internet"
Ms. Morton-Marr  161.  Great
Ms. de Silvio  162.  well... thats cool (158)
Mr. Schneider  163.  we will send to all a list of many cool organizations after the conference, and a paper where evwerybody can submit their preferred projects and contacts, so we learn about whats going on, who is succesful and how we can copy it :-)
Mr. hauben  164.  hi
Ms. Kreuter  165.  to 158: looking for farah too! pl. have a chat, Heiner!
Ms. Toribio  166.  great Schneider
Mr. hauben  167.  I have not had access to this terminal but have watched the discussions and think I must learn how to listen and also then respond.
Mr. Lohmann  168.  How can we all join our efforts and share our visions more frequently? Mr. Schneider e.g.,any idea?
Mr. hauben  169.  will there be a followup open access newsgroup to continue any discussion that there may have been geberated?
Mr. hauben  170.  generated
Ms. de Silvio  171.  Interact is a youth non-government organization, and sometimes, we work with education. For example, Maringá, a city of Paraná (Brasil), have a recycling project in all the city.
Mr. hauben  172.  Usenet allows for alt groups to be created easily but I haven' done it? has any one created such a newsgroup
Mr. hauben  173.  ?
Ms. Toribio  174.  as Mr. Schneider said, children look for funding for projects in other countries, but the point is that they first learn about the young people that is the beneficiary in the oother country. It's not suppose to be just find money, there must be a link between the youngsters of both sides
Mr. Lohmann  175.  de silvio: Have you heard about reciclar T3 in Belo Horizonte?